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Transmission: replace/recondition?

Hi guys Sorry to bring this up again ... But, hypothetically, how hard is it gonna be to chuck Dads 308 out of his VK, in his Hilux? Obviously, apparently, cheaper/easier than chuckin the shell of a VX on top. Apparently. But, was talking to someone, reckoned the engine bay might be too...

Dishes?

... no rush. *shrug* Thinkin': keep the Hilux bullbar for the Commodore & chuck some grumpy vertical truck exhausts between the doors. *Lift kit. *Footpad(s) beneath the doors. *Snorkel. *Diff' etc, whatever needs to be replaced.

Glad to hear it To-do-list: (A) Get the Hilux roadworthy. (B) Chuck the 308 V8 block from Dads old VK into his Hilux. (C) Chuck the top half (the hat) of Dads VX (the shell) on the Hilux chassis. #V8FourWheelDriveCommodore ... prolly take a while.

Okay, sorry to make this a scratched record. Just wanna make sure I understand correctly. To verify: Chuckin the top half of the VX on the Hilux chassis and have it roadworthy, is possible, right? (Basically do the same thing as the picture)

(a) Yeah, every intention of asking that question. Just thought I'd chuck it to you guys for a rough guess for future reference. (b) Never knew/understood that about (unibody/bodyonframe). A cars a car, right? %100 thought it'd be basic, chuck the doors/panels/etc, the shell of one on the...

Also, the chassis/shell: Someone was pointing out that the sizes don't equal, so, hypothetically, I'd need a wider axle. Right'o, so why not just chuck the VX shell on the Hilux chassis, then chuck in a wider axle?

Question: A Pillars: What's needs to be done to fix that? Not gonna do it myself, just wondering. Grind out the rusty bit(s) then weld in a filler? What you reckon one of those A pillars worth to repair specifically? Couple hundred? $200-500? Thanks in advance

Yeah, that's me every year with registration. Always expecting an unexpected/expensive problem that keeps me off the road for a bit longer than expected. I'll keep ya's posted. If I get a green light, I'll let ya's know how long til I chuck the 308 in it, or puttin VX shell on ...

Spend some time dismantling it, do what I can, then send it in for assessment? *Green light: pay for repairs/panels/whatever. *Red light: keep it as a functional bush basher.

"Like I said a paint job on a straight car no rust range from $12k on the low side and around $15k for a decent job" Wouldn't bother getting it painted *shrug* paint it myself before spending thousthousands of $. Why not spend the next few months directing it, windows etc, get rid of the back...

Guarantee he wouldn't. Whole reason he left it unregistered. I get it. It's not a guaranteed next step, just trying to understand, specifically, why not. A-pilars stood out to me, & make sense. Can't see why 20k is realistic tho?

Cheers for the feedback guys. Puts things in perspective'ish. How bout I spend the next 6-12 months pulling it apart, de-rusting it as much as possible? Then getting it assessed ... A-Panel: fixable? Mechanic needs to weld the sh*t out of it?

Stupid question: A pillar? Pillar between the windows & windscreen? Why? Don't understand. If I replace the back half, then replace & paint the other panels, where do I fall short? If the chassis's too rusted,k, no dice But shell/panels?

Just want it roadworthy, not mint. As much as possible, I'd just replace & paint the panels myself. Don't need it looking brand new. Just roadworthy. You reckon $2000/$17k/$35k?

Yeah, fair 'nuf. But if I replace the back half with a flat tray, that's half the job done, right? (I mean, that makes the piece of string %50 shorter, no?)

... that's why I like the idea of just chuckin the VX shell on *shrug*

Got a replacement flat tray organised, apparently. Be right if I just replace the back end?

Update 84 model Hilux. (couple pictures too big, I'll sort em 4 ya ...)

Nah dude, no can do. It's not about the money. Dad was super stingy/cost effective, that's why the Hilux got taken off the road (rather just buy a VX & use the Hilux as a bush-basher). All good, no big deal. At the very least, totally happy to get it back on the road & use it, or not. Not gonna...

Cheers Yeah, from my point of view I've gotta prioritise getting the Hilux de-rusted & reconditioned to a roadworthy registration level, before I think about chuckin a V8 in it, or VX shell on it ... All good, I get it. Not planning/expecting this to all be done in time for Christmas this...

... good point

Ok. Hypothetically, forget the V8. Let's keep it simple. How bout just getting the Hilux roadworthy? Expected cost(s)? No point considering chuckin a V8 in it, or VX shell on it. Gotta start with ABC, before XYZ ...

Alright ... Can you guys help me figure out a hypothetical ball-park price range for the Hilux? If I wanna chuck the 308 in it, how much ya reckon ? $10k? $50k? But if I chuck the 308 in it, I'd need a new diff, right? Anything else? $? Quarter panels, doors etc: need to be replaced, right? No...

Much appreciated If, IF, I get the ball rolling I'll keep ya's posted. Just needed to know if it's even possible. Every time I've mentioned the idea to someone: big grin Not like I'd be expecting to have it done this year, & then use it as my daily transport. Got 2 VX's: one's roadworthy...

OK, cool So a Hilux/VX is possible, correct? I'd be able to chuck in the 308 V8 in it? Probably gonna cost around $100k?

Never ending to-do list of what I'd add to a Hilux/VX. Main thing, just need to know if I could organise Hilux/VX I'd be stoaked with V6 Hilux/VX. If I could manage that, be super stoaked if I could chuck a boxed-up 308 V8 in ...

"Making a Commodore out of a Lexcen is badge engineering, not actual mechanical engineering" Yeah, exactly But, still, 'why not?', 'what if?'. "Are you going to modify the axle tubes and axles on the Hilux or find something with a similar track width and make it up in offset rims?" Dunno...

Only hypothetical mate. Just trying to understand the why's/variables/cost etc I've turned a Lexcen into a Commodore. Why not do the same thing with a Hilux? I mean, how hard could it be? *shrug*

"The VX is 200mm wider in the body so you would need to find some way of legally spacing out the rims on the Hilux so it doesn't look odd for starters." Q: Wider axels? Whole reason this keeps popping up in my head: rural area, Bitumen/dirt roads: potholes. Potholes = flat tyres. So for...

"It'll fit....Just how much cutting, grinding and welding is required is another thing" and "A monoframe vehical on a chassis the commodore wheel base is wider ." I understand it would be ridiculously expensive/impractical, just trying to understand why exactly. Wheel base: makes sense, but...

Sorry to bring this up again. Bloke at the Smash Repairs reckoned to Commodore Shell wouldn't fit the Hilux chassis. Don't understand, why? Bunch of questions ... Obviously wouldn't be a simple job. But why would a Commodore Shell not fit a Hilux chassis? Dimensions?

Fu Manchu: yeah, that So it IS doable. That, with a VX sedan shell. That with a 308 block & suitable exhaust. That with a bull bar. That with a snorkel.

Yeah mate, exactly. All good Commodore/Hilux: was only ever a hypothetical question mark.

OK, just for perspective. My first car was a Toyota Lexcen. Which is almost identical to a VR/VS. So upon taking ownership, my main priority, was going to the wrecker and replacing all the quarter panels, boot/bonnet lids, rear vision mirrors etc . Cuz I grew up travelling in Commodores. So...

Dads VX is my daily day-to-day transport at this point ... V8 80's Hilux (running off a VK donk) makes a pretty f*ckin good substitute/alternative, I think (Good point on the diff)

Yeah, fair nuff. I'm dealing with family inheritance. Don't wanna just get rid of Dads cars. So I've got access to a Commodore VX, 80's Hilux and a V8 308 block. Just dropped in to the local smash repair & he said best to just chuck the V8 in the Hilux. Told me a Commodore shell won't fit...

Dunno. I like the idea of a V8, 4x4, Commodore. *Lift kit *Snorkel *Bull bar